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		<title>Corporate accountant discovers Bank On Yourself… and now smiles when the market crashes</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Yellen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Derek Logan is the textbook &#8220;poster boy&#8221; for someone who did all the right things we were taught to do financially.  He&#8217;s been working since he had a newspaper route at age 10.  He diligently set his goals and used a budget system.  He maxed out his 401(k) and had his home paid off by [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek Logan is the textbook &#8220;poster boy&#8221; for someone who did <em>all</em> the right things we were taught to do financially.  He&#8217;s been working since he had a newspaper route at age 10.  He diligently set his goals and used a budget system.  He maxed out his 401(k) and had his home paid off by the age of 45 – <em>even</em> though he and his wife moved 13 times in their first 21 years of marriage.  And he paid cash for major purchases.</p>
<p>But he <em>still</em> got blindsided several times by the totally unpredictable ups and downs of the stock market.</p>
<div id="attachment_12885" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 287px"><img class="size-full wp-image-12885    " title="Derek Logan with his newborn granddaughter" src="http://www.bankonyourself.com/wp-content/uploads/Derek-Logan-Image.jpg" alt="Derek Logan with his newborn granddaughter" width="277" height="208" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Derek Logan with his newborn granddaughter</p></div>
<p>As a corporate accountant for more than 30 years, Derek realized he had set – and achieved – all of the goals he set for himself… <em>except</em> for the goal of being able to retire at a specific age with a specific amount of money.</p>
<p>Disheartened and frustrated because he was closing in on his hoped-for retirement age, but his retirement account had been decimated <em>several</em> times, he began to do a lot of soul searching.  He was willing to be open to other alternatives.</p>
<p>Fortunately, <a title="Buy your copy of the best-selling book..." href="/products">my best-selling book</a> landed on his kitchen table as a Father&#8217;s Day gift… and the rest, as they say, is history.</p>
<p><span id="more-12884"></span>Derek started a <a title="What is Bank On Yourself?" href="/home">Bank On Yourself-type policy</a> just a little over two years ago and couldn&#8217;t be more thrilled, now that he&#8217;s stopped feeding the insatiable Wall Street Casino with his hard-earned dollars.</p>
<p>When the market recently experienced historic levels of volatility, Derek sent me this grateful note…</p>
<blockquote><p>As the market went down, I smiled.  Not at the anguish so many must have been feeling, but at the joy of knowing I wasn&#8217;t being affected – this time, or ever again.  I printed Thursday&#8217;s headlines (512 point plunge on the Dow) and included them in my Bank On Yourself portfolio notebook that will serve as a reminder of the <strong>best</strong> financial decision I&#8217;ve ever made, two years ago this month!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Derek is an enthusiastic champion of <a title="Learn about the Bank On Yourself method..." href="/home">the Bank On Yourself method</a>, having shared it with over 50 friends, relatives and colleagues.  So he was thrilled when I asked him if he would share his fascinating story with you.  Whether you <em>already</em> use Bank On Yourself, or you&#8217;ve been <em>considering</em> adding it to your financial plan, I know you&#8217;ll get immense value from this fast-paced interview.  And you&#8217;ll probably identify with Derek&#8217;s frustration.</p>
<p>You can listen to the interview by pressing the play button below, or you can <a title="Right click this link and choose &quot;Save Link As&quot; or &quot;Save Target As&quot; to download to your computer or iPod" href="http://bank-on-yourself.s3.amazonaws.com/McIntyre/Derek_Logan_Interview_Edit_1.mp3">download the entire interview as an MP3</a> and listen on your own player or iPod…</p>
<p>You can also <a title="Transcript of Pamela's interview with Derek..." href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/wp-content/uploads/Derek_Logan_Interview.pdf">download a transcript of the interview here</a>.</p>
<h4>In the fast-paced and fascinating interview, you&#8217;ll discover…</h4>
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<li>The five lies Derek realized we&#8217;ve been fed about investing (this will blow you away)</li>
<li>The myth of investing in the market &#8220;for the long haul&#8221;… and why Derek now <em>demands</em> his savings and investing strategies give him <em>guarantees and assurances both now <strong>and</strong> for the long term</em></li>
<li>How Derek has <em>already</em> used his policy to become his own source of financing <em>three times in the first two years of starting his plan</em> &#8211; once again <a title="Suze and Dave: Let's Debate..." href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/suze-orman-and-dave-ramsey-lets-debate.html">confirming how these policies are different from the ones Suze Orman, Dave Ramsey</a> and others talk about</li>
<li>Where Derek <a title="Where will you find the money?" href="/funding-your-plan"></a><a title="Where will you find the money?" href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/funding-your-plan">found the money to fund his plan</a></li>
<li>Why &#8220;buy term insurance and invest the difference&#8221; is really &#8220;buy term and <em>spend</em> the difference&#8221;</li>
<div class="button alignright"><a class="button request-analysis" title="Request a FREE Bank on Yourself Analysis" href="/analysis-request-form"></a></div>
<li>Why <a title="Request your Analysis today..." href="/analysis-request-form">requesting a free Analysis</a> and getting a referral to a <a title="Learn more about the Authorized Advisors..." href="/certified-advisors"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Bank On Yourself Authorized Advisor</span></a> was one of the <em>best </em>moves Derek ever made</li>
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<p>You can listen to the interview by pressing the play button below, or you can <a title="Right click this link and choose &quot;Save Link As&quot; or &quot;Save Target As&quot; to download to your computer or iPod" href="http://bank-on-yourself.s3.amazonaws.com/McIntyre/Derek_Logan_Interview_Edit_1.mp3"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">download the entire interview as an MP3</span></a> and listen on your own player or iPod…</p>
<p><a title="Transcript of Pamela's interview with Derek..." href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/wp-content/uploads/Derek_Logan_Interview.pdf">Download the transcript here</a></p>
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<h4>THE ULTIMATE FINANCIAL SECURITY BLANKET</h4>
<p>Do you want to add guarantees and predictability like Derek now has to <em>your</em> financial plan, too?  The <a title="Learn more about Bank On Yourself..." href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/">Bank On Yourself method</a> comes with <a title="Are you up to the Challenge?" href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/challenge">more advantages and guarantees</a> than any other method we know of.  If you haven&#8217;t already started to Bank On Yourself, <em>today</em> is the day to <a title="Have you requested your Analysis yet?" href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/analysis-request-form">request your FREE Analysis</a> and find out how to gain peace of mind and take back control of your financial future!</p>
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<h4>Check out these other Bank On Yourself success stories that may also be of interest to you:</h4>
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<li><a title="Read the engineer's story..." href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/bank-on-yourself-under-the-microscope.html">Bank On Yourself under the microscope</a> (a Vice President of technology engineering for a major health care   company shares his findings of hundreds of hours he&#8217;s spent analyzing   Bank On Yourself)</li>
<li><a title="What side of the debt line are you on?" href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/what-side-of-the-debt-line-are-you-on.html">What side of the debt line are you on?</a> (how Bank On Yourself can help people who&#8217;ve accumulated debt – <em>as long as they are ready to change their habits)</em></li>
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<h3>We want your feedback!</h3>
<p>Tell us what YOU think of Derek&#8217;s interview in the comments box below…</p>
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		<title>Suze Orman and Dave Ramsey: Let&#8217;s debate!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Yellen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[UPDATED January 13, 2012:  It&#8217;s been more than 3 years since I challenged Suze and Dave to a debate, but they haven&#8217;t taken me up on it yet.  This post sparked some very lively debate and insightful comments, so be sure to read those, too. If Bank On Yourself is so good, why isn&#8217;t everyone [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATED January 13, 2012:  It&#8217;s been more than 3 years since I challenged Suze and Dave to a debate, but they haven&#8217;t taken me up on it yet.  This post sparked some <em>very</em> lively debate and insightful comments, so be sure to read those, too.</p>
<h2>If Bank On Yourself is so good, why isn&#8217;t everyone already doing it?</h2>
<p>Here&#8217;s why&#8230;</p>
<p>If you browse the personal finance section of any bookstore, turn on the TV or open a magazine on finance, you&#8217;ll discover that 99 out of 100 financial &#8220;gurus&#8221; will insist that whole life insurance is a lousy place to put your money.  Most will recommend you buy term life insurance instead and invest the difference in mutual funds.</p>
<p>That’s in spite of the fact that, had you invested in an S&amp;P 500 index fund for the past 12 years, <strong><em>your nest-egg wouldn&#8217;t have grown at all</em></strong>.  <em>And that doesn’t even factor in 35% inflation during this period!</em></p>
<div id="attachment_16082" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 204px"><img class="size-full wp-image-16082" title="Suze Orman &amp; Dave Ramsey" src="http://www.bankonyourself.com/wp-content/uploads/1-16-2012-11-11-08-AM.png" alt="Suze Orman &amp; Dave Ramsey" width="194" height="173" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Suze Orman &amp; Dave Ramsey</p></div>
<p>But I&#8217;m getting a little ahead of myself. Part of the problem is these financial experts know <em>nothing</em> about the <em>specially designed</em> type of dividend-paying whole life policy used for the <a title="What is Bank On Yourself?" href="/home">Bank On Yourself method</a>&#8230;<span id="more-1676"></span></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not really their fault.  Out of 1,500 major life insurance companies <em>only a handful offer a policy that has all the features required to maximize the power of this concept</em>. That&#8217;s one reason it&#8217;s not even mentioned in most industry training programs.</p>
<p>And the fact that <a title="Learn more about the Authorized Advisors..." href="/certified-advisors">an advisor who helps a client implement a Bank On Yourself-designed policy</a> takes a 50-70% cut in commission could be another reason why you haven&#8217;t heard of this before now.</p>
<h3>So how is a Bank On Yourself<em>-</em>policy <em>different</em> from the kind of whole life policies Suze Orman, Dave Ramsey, David Bach, and others talk about?</h3>
<h4><strong>Here are three key differences:</strong></h4>
<p><strong> </strong><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-12780" title="Key difference image" src="http://www.bankonyourself.com/wp-content/uploads/Key-difference-image.jpg" alt="Key difference image" width="32" height="58" /><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Key Difference #1: </strong></span> These experts say the money you can have access to in the plan (your &#8220;cash value&#8221;) grows too slowly in a whole life policy, and say you typically won&#8217;t have any cash value at all in the first few years.</p>
<p>A Bank On Yourself-type policy, however, incorporates a special rider or option that turbo-charges the growth of your money in the policy <strong>so you have up to 40 times more cash value<em>, </em></strong><strong><em>especially</em> in the early years of the policy</strong><em>.</em> This allows you to use it as a financial management tool from Day One.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t take our word for it &#8211; here&#8217;s a statement from a <a title="What the experts don't know..." href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/what-the-experts-dont-know-about-bank-on-yourself-policies-part-1.html">Bank On Yourself-designed dividend-paying whole life policy</a>, at the end of just one year.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s an <a title="What is the rate of return on Bank On Yourself?" href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/whats-the-rate-of-return-on-a-bank-on-yourself-plan.html">article that reveals the rate of return of a properly designed Bank On Yourself type policy</a>. It puts traditional investments to shame, and it does that with<em>out</em> the risk or volatility of stocks, real estate, gold, commodities and other investments.</p>
<p>Each plan is different, so to find out how much cash value you&#8217;ll have each year &#8211; guaranteed &#8211; <a title="Request Your Analysis today..." href="/analysis-request-form">request your FREE Analysis here.</a></p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-12780" title="Key difference image" src="http://www.bankonyourself.com/wp-content/uploads/Key-difference-image.jpg" alt="Key difference image" width="32" height="58" /></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Key Difference #2: </strong></span>Most financial experts, including Suze and Dave, write about policies where your death benefit stays level for the life of the policy.</p>
<p>However, in a <em><a title="What is dividend-paying whole life insurance?" href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/what-is-dividend-paying-whole-life-insurance">dividend-paying whole life policy</a></em>, dividends can be left in the policy to purchase additional coverage, while at the same time growing your cash value in the most efficient way possible.  <a title="What the experts don't know about dividend-paying whole life..." href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/what-the-experts-dont-know-about-bank-on-yourself-policies-part-2.html">This policy statement shows you how the death benefit keeps growing,</a> and <em>proves</em> these policies are different from the ones Suze and Dave talk about.</p>
<p>Please note that this statement is from a policy I started <em>before</em> I learned about Bank On Yourself<em>,</em> and it has grown <em>much</em> more slowly than a policy designed to maximize the power of the Bank On Yourself concept.</p>
<p>Even so, <a title="Compare traditional investments to Bank On Yourself..." href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/compare-your-plan">this policy has left my mutual funds and real estate investments in the dust.</a></p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-12780" title="Key difference image" src="http://www.bankonyourself.com/wp-content/uploads/Key-difference-image.jpg" alt="Key difference image" width="32" height="58" /></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Key Difference #3: </strong></span> The financial experts often rant about how, when the policy owner dies, the insurance company &#8220;only&#8221; pays you the death benefit and keeps your cash value.</p>
<p>But with a Bank On Yourself policy it&#8217;s <em>very</em> different, as you can see on <a title="What the experts don't know..." href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/what-the-experts-dont-know-about-bank-on-yourself-policies-part-2.html">this policy statement</a>.   It shows you how, had I died on the date this statement was issued, my family would have received a check for <em>more</em> than the original death benefit AND the cash value in the policy <strong>combined!</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>So I am throwing out the gauntlet to Suze, Dave or <em>any</em> expert who wants to challenge me.  Just name the time and place!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m so confident that they&#8217;ll come around once they get the facts about Bank On Yourself, that I&#8217;ve reserved a special place for their endorsements along with the <a title="See who endorses Bank on Yourself!" href="/endorsements/">trusted experts who have already endorsed Bank On Yourself</a>.</p>
<p>And remember, Bank On Yourself will beat anyone&#8217;s best financial strategy or <a title="Take the $100,000 Challenge..." href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/challenge/">we&#8217;ll pay you $100,000</a>!</p>
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<p>No two policies are alike, because each one is tailored to the clients unique situation.  So <em>your </em>results will be different. To find out what your bottom-line numbers could be, and how much your financial picture could improve if you added Bank On Yourself to your financial plan, <a title="Request your free Analysis here..." href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/analysis-request-form">request a <strong>free</strong> Bank On Yourself Analysis</a>.  There&#8217;s no obligation.</p>
<p>Be a fly on the wall and watch as our hidden video camera captured <a title="Suze &amp; Dave discuss Bank On Yourself..." href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/suze-orman-and-dave-ramsey-discuss-bank-on-yourself.html">Suze Orman and Dave Ramsey discussing Bank On Yourself</a>!</p>
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