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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 15:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to mention that these types of policies and others are covered by each individual state up to acertain value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to mention that these types of policies and others are covered by each individual state up to acertain value.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, insightful comments, Ron!  Thanks for sharing your knowledge!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, insightful comments, Ron!  Thanks for sharing your knowledge!</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 01:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamella,

Great site. Great Book. Great cause.

Full disclosure, I am a financial advisor and one of the reasons that I decided to work with a mutual insurance company over a brokerage firm is due to the power of a properly designed whole life insurance policy. 

Some information that may help the more analytical minds is that:
1. A mutual company is a Subchapter L corporation. This means that distributions as dividends from the insurance company are already taxed at the corporate level, therefore as long as the dividends remain within the policy the policy owner gets access to the funds without a second tax. Even if the funds are withdrawn rather than borrowed, the gains are taxed on a FIFO basis. This basically means that the tax code favors insurance contracts and provides considerable advantages for mutual company owners. Here it is in legalese: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/usc_sec_26_00000808----000-.html 
2. The power of ownership cannot be stressed enough. The policyholder is an owner of the mutual insurance company. In essence, you are growing your money within, and borrowing from, a company that you personally own. Think of it as a preferred stock-like investment that you buy into via premiums rather than shares, yet it&#039;s complete with voting rights, and a death benefit to boot. 
3. Leverage is power. The compounding within the policy regardless of outstanding loans (non-direct recognition) is your friend. Your money is buying more insurance while you are using the insurance companies money. How do you make money by borrowing at a higher rate than you are earning? Well, because of the volume of money being borrowed vs the volume of money earning interest. I&#039;d be glad to show the math behind it. Yes, there is a break-point rate where the funds borrowed will surpass those earned. I usually show this graphically for my clients just to give them more comfort that they are not making a mistake by taking policy loans.
What are you invested in? An incredibly well diversified, conservative mix of investments, much of which only institutional portfolios have access to. Actuaries, the guys who make much of this activity possible, go through an absurd amount of training, testing, and study in order to make money for insurance companies and are paid handsomely to do so. Why not hire those guys to work for you as an owner, rather than having them work against you as a consumer? The slow money but sure money always bets with the house. Another plus is that insurance companies have the capital to hire the rockstars of the institutional investment world since they are overwhelmingly cash intensive. As an owner they are at your disposal.
4. Finally, the brunt of this concept is that you can recapture the money that you EARN/SPEND. The amount of money that passes through our hands in this country is astounding. This plan allows us to control our own individual household microeconomic environments by controlling the funding transactions of each dollar exchanged. Money is always made via financing in our modern economic environment because even cold hard cash is a &quot;note&quot; AKA a promise to pay, hence, even it is financed.

Thanks Pamela, keep this up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamella,</p>
<p>Great site. Great Book. Great cause.</p>
<p>Full disclosure, I am a financial advisor and one of the reasons that I decided to work with a mutual insurance company over a brokerage firm is due to the power of a properly designed whole life insurance policy. </p>
<p>Some information that may help the more analytical minds is that:<br />
1. A mutual company is a Subchapter L corporation. This means that distributions as dividends from the insurance company are already taxed at the corporate level, therefore as long as the dividends remain within the policy the policy owner gets access to the funds without a second tax. Even if the funds are withdrawn rather than borrowed, the gains are taxed on a FIFO basis. This basically means that the tax code favors insurance contracts and provides considerable advantages for mutual company owners. Here it is in legalese: <a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/usc_sec_26_00000808----000-.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/usc_sec_26_00000808&#8212;-000-.html</a><br />
2. The power of ownership cannot be stressed enough. The policyholder is an owner of the mutual insurance company. In essence, you are growing your money within, and borrowing from, a company that you personally own. Think of it as a preferred stock-like investment that you buy into via premiums rather than shares, yet it&#8217;s complete with voting rights, and a death benefit to boot.<br />
3. Leverage is power. The compounding within the policy regardless of outstanding loans (non-direct recognition) is your friend. Your money is buying more insurance while you are using the insurance companies money. How do you make money by borrowing at a higher rate than you are earning? Well, because of the volume of money being borrowed vs the volume of money earning interest. I&#8217;d be glad to show the math behind it. Yes, there is a break-point rate where the funds borrowed will surpass those earned. I usually show this graphically for my clients just to give them more comfort that they are not making a mistake by taking policy loans.<br />
What are you invested in? An incredibly well diversified, conservative mix of investments, much of which only institutional portfolios have access to. Actuaries, the guys who make much of this activity possible, go through an absurd amount of training, testing, and study in order to make money for insurance companies and are paid handsomely to do so. Why not hire those guys to work for you as an owner, rather than having them work against you as a consumer? The slow money but sure money always bets with the house. Another plus is that insurance companies have the capital to hire the rockstars of the institutional investment world since they are overwhelmingly cash intensive. As an owner they are at your disposal.<br />
4. Finally, the brunt of this concept is that you can recapture the money that you EARN/SPEND. The amount of money that passes through our hands in this country is astounding. This plan allows us to control our own individual household microeconomic environments by controlling the funding transactions of each dollar exchanged. Money is always made via financing in our modern economic environment because even cold hard cash is a &#8220;note&#8221; AKA a promise to pay, hence, even it is financed.</p>
<p>Thanks Pamela, keep this up!</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 21:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are numerous ways to take income from the policy, which is why you want to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bankonyourself.com/certified-advisors&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;work with a knowledgeable advisor&lt;/a&gt; .  I’ve actually explained this in great detail 3 – 6 of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bankonyourself.com/products&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my best-selling book&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are numerous ways to take income from the policy, which is why you want to <a href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/certified-advisors" rel="nofollow">work with a knowledgeable advisor</a> .  I’ve actually explained this in great detail 3 – 6 of <a href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/products" rel="nofollow">my best-selling book</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: roxane</title>
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		<dc:creator>roxane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 22:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read Tax-Free Retirement and appreciate the differences of BOY. It the retirement income phase of BOY considered consecutive loans or actual withdrawls of cash value? Also, does the premium payment continue through retirement until death?
Thanks for educating people to other options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read Tax-Free Retirement and appreciate the differences of BOY. It the retirement income phase of BOY considered consecutive loans or actual withdrawls of cash value? Also, does the premium payment continue through retirement until death?<br />
Thanks for educating people to other options.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - the answer to your first question is explained in detail on pages 64-65 of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bankonyourself.com/products&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my book&lt;/a&gt; and your second question is answered on pages 100-103.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; the answer to your first question is explained in detail on pages 64-65 of <a href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/products" rel="nofollow">my book</a> and your second question is answered on pages 100-103.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela,
A couple of questions.
1. Could you break down what the two portions of the premium pay for? And do they both add cash value?

2. When paying back a loan, does the total amount being payed back get credited
back to my account in the form of paid up additions or just the interest?

Thanks,
John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela,<br />
A couple of questions.<br />
1. Could you break down what the two portions of the premium pay for? And do they both add cash value?</p>
<p>2. When paying back a loan, does the total amount being payed back get credited<br />
back to my account in the form of paid up additions or just the interest?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
John</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes - you can have multiple policy loans out on one single policy (I&#039;ve borrowed 3 separate times in the last 18 months from one policy I own), however they will all be added together in the company&#039;s accounting as one aggregate loan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; you can have multiple policy loans out on one single policy (I&#8217;ve borrowed 3 separate times in the last 18 months from one policy I own), however they will all be added together in the company&#8217;s accounting as one aggregate loan.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In your book, people only seem to be talking about paying back 1 loan at a time before taking out another loan. Can you have more than 1 loan out at a time?

Thanks,
John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your book, people only seem to be talking about paying back 1 loan at a time before taking out another loan. Can you have more than 1 loan out at a time?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
John</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 00:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhh… What website are you reading and reading and reading?  We spell out exactly what the product is and how it works all over this website.  If you read just these key web pages, you’ll understand the basics of it:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bankonyourself.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.bankonyourself.com&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bankonyourself.com/best-way-to-invest-money&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.bankonyourself.com/best-way-to-invest-money&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bankonyourself.com/challenge&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.bankonyourself.com/challenge&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhh… What website are you reading and reading and reading?  We spell out exactly what the product is and how it works all over this website.  If you read just these key web pages, you’ll understand the basics of it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bankonyourself.com</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/best-way-to-invest-money" rel="nofollow">http://www.bankonyourself.com/best-way-to-invest-money</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.bankonyourself.com/challenge" rel="nofollow">http://www.bankonyourself.com/challenge</a></p>
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